We’re departing from the “norms” of the podcast and dedicating this episode to a discussion surrounding WeCrashed, the Apple TV+ miniseries that depicts the rise and fall of WeWork and its embattled CEO and co-founder Adam Neumann (played by Jared Leto). The series also stars Anne Hathaway as his wife Rebekah Paltrow Neumann. The show has all the themes worthy of a discussion on a money podcast: the abuse of power, privilege and wealth, our relationship to money and the differences between female and male entrepreneurs. (Warning: there are spoilers.)

Joining the show to discuss WeCrashed with Farnoosh: Kate Dailey, Deputy Managing Editor for Features at the Philadelphia Inquirer (Fun Fact: Farnoosh and Kate are best friends and roommates at Penn State) and Kate Sullivan, Host and Creator of To Dine For, a podcast and PBS series where she interviews top CEOs, visionaries and entrepreneurs like Howard Schulz, Gloria Estefan and Jon Bon Jovi.