Joe Saul-Sehy, host of Stacking Benjamins podcast and co-author of Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management, joins to discuss new ways to think about financial planning, his favorite money apps and more.

More about Joe: Destroying his credit immediately after leaving home, Joe had to learn about money the hard way—and much of it as he was telling other people how to manage their money, as a financial advisor. After 16 years in the industry he moved to financial media, creating Stacking Benjamins, one of the most listened to podcasts in the personal finance sphere. Kiplinger has called the show the “best personal finance podcast” and Fast Company has described it as striking a “great balance between fun and functional.” Joe lives in Texarkana with his spouse, Cheryl, and cat, Cooper, recording shows in his mom’s basement next door. To learn more about Joe and his book, check out his website.